I had both and when I say had, I mean I only have the P320 now. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 16 of 16 Posts. As for your other comments above re the 509 vs. FNS -- it's all conjecture on your part. 509 has a better optics mounting system, 320 has better trigger and feels softer shooting out of the box. This video compares the differences and similarities of the Sig Sauer M17 and the FN 509 Tactical. I've been wanting a 357 Sig for awhile now. I don’t know much more than they say in the article but it is worth investigating before you buy one https://foxbaltimore.com/features/operation-crime-justice/exclusive-video-reveals-unexpected-gunfire-from-police-weapons. That being said, if I could only have one, I would choose the SIG P320C everytime. The FN 509® is built on the proven architecture of the FNS™ Compact, FN made changes internally and externally to meet the rigorous performance standards of the MHS requirements and further developed the platform into the FN 509® with the help from industry experts. I want a new carry gun, especially since things will be cooling off soon and I'll be able to carry a larger gun. Before anyone says it, I've already looked at Glock, not my thing. The handgun looks and feels extremely durable. If issued any of these pistols, I would feel well armed. https://foxbaltimore.com/features/operation-crime-justice/exclusive-video-reveals-unexpected-gunfire-from-police-weapons. Anyways, on to how I feel about the P320 and FN509. (Unless you buy both, LOL!) The SIG P320 won the contract, and as a result, most of the other designs that were submitted for this competition are being released for sale commercially in one form or another. Where the 509 really shined: its grip. Best 9mm Sidearm Pistol Contenders Right off the bat, all six test guns have polymer frames and steel slides. You will need a front sight that is .330" tall. The FN 509 Tactical shares the same mechanics and touchpoints as the standard FN 509. The P10C is a straight shooter, not a single FTF or FTE in about 2400 rounds and my groups are tight. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 509 selling for a lower street price when it actually hits the market in larger numbers. I’m a big fan of the 509’s front slide serrations [ED: available on the GLOCK’s 2017 “Summer Specials”]. The SIG P320 Compact (top) and the Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 (bottom) are top guns for concealed carry. Love the x-compact frame, makes my 320 feel like a CZ. I have not seen any FN 509 info on the forum. FN America took their line of striker-fired pistols in a new direction in 2017 with the introduction of the FN 509. The guns included the FN 509, Glock 17 Gen5, Heckler & Koch P30, Sig Sauer P320 Full-Size, Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 and the 5-inch-barreled Walther PPQ M2. FN’s Reputation. While I haven’t been made privy to their testing and selection process, I found the FN pistol to be of sound design and performance with great ergonomics and … Sig P320 Voluntary Safety Upgrade: https://yo SIG also released a civilian-variant model, which very much lives up to the hype. TGT Supporter. For me it would come down to trigger feel and accessory support. If I got the P320, I’d get it without the night sights to put my own on and would probably get it with a manual safety (I would carry with the safety off but I like it there for when newer shooters shoot my guns and I’m used to it from my 1911). I like … For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. (Photo/Nick Jacobellis) EASE OF OPERATION. Sig Sauer P320. Compare the dimensions and specs of FN 509 and Sig Sauer P320 X-Carry But, I put the 509 to an honest comparison before buying a midsize carry 9mm and it blew the Sig, Glock and Springfield away. I’m still undecided about the safety, but I figure it’s better to have it and not use it than want it for any reason and not have it. FN 509: I’ve been looking forward to shooting the FN 509 since it came out. But then I tried the Glock 45, as in I tried it, carried it All the FN's I have fired have had mushy triggers, no clean break. It was born out of their entry in the Army’s modular handgun system competition. My FN contact tells me they will be available soon. It comes with an ambidextrous slide stop. This video compares the differences and similarities of the Sig Sauer M17 and the FN 509 Tactical. For three decades, the U.S. Navy’s Sea Air Land (SEAL) special-forces teams relied on a … Work on your fundementals. The FN 509 was an impressive gun, but I’m a DA/SA kinda guy unless something catches my eye and the FN 509 Tactical has caught my eye. Again I am talking full size 9mm handguns here. The trigger was close but felt slightly better on the P320 (although I tried a full-sized 509 and the mid-sized trigger is supposed to be better than the full size). The Sig HAS to cut corners, and we have yet to find out what those corners are. Aftermarket, the 320 has an underwhelming apex trigger kit and … Exploded View: Ruger 10/22 Carbine. Guns In The News. They also both come with accessory rails for attaching lights and lasers. Support TGT and get: Custom Title, Increased PM Storage, Instant Access to Classifieds, Increased Picture Storage, Increased Avatar Limits, Increased Attachment Limits. I'm uncertain how CZ treated these parts but IMO it is sub par to SIG. I did switch to Trijicon night sights on my P320, my old eyes can see the bright orange better on the forward sight. My 509 did come with a dedicated recoil spring assembly for comps and suppressors... which works flawlessly with the pmm comp so far... grayguns makes a guide rod for the 320 that lets you use 1911 springs to tune the gun... which is pretty great. It is modular. SIG 320 barrel compatibility: Our barrels have been proven to work with these 320 models only: P320 Full Size: P320 RX Full-Size P320 Nitron Full-Size. (Photo/Nick Jacobellis) EASE OF OPERATION. The expected winner was the Glock, but to many people’s surprise the P320 stood out as the champion. The FN 509 is one more pistol whose existence is due in whole or part to a manufacturer attempting to win the military’s Modular Handgun System (MHS) contract. Holds 13+1 of 9mm, but I'm not a fan of the checkering on the plastic grips. Edit: the article linked mentions the FNS series, not the 509 series. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Compare the dimensions and specs of FN 509 Midsize and Sig Sauer P320 XCompact Still always good to have more choices. The Sig HAS to cut corners, and we have yet to find out what those corners are. I would likely upgrade to an Apex trigger regardless, which is ~$100 more for the 509. The FN and Sig are very close in size. Now let me start by saying I am a fan of FN weapons. FN 509 with Trijicon RMR vs Sig P320 with Romeo 1 Pro, TLR 7-A, Wilson Combat grip module and Flat face trigger. In 2017, the U.S. Army held a competition for modular handguns to adopt a new standard-issue sidearm. If all of those have you feeling a little small handed, even the lowly M&P holds 17+1. See My Website below for more info and extra content not available on YouTub It is an excellent gun but I prefer hammer fired. Building on the FNS platform, they delivered the 509 series with some serious improvements. I can buy a conversion kit for $300, and have a 40 S&W or a 357 Sig as either a full sized, compact, or sub compact gun. I’m looking at getting my first CCW and have narrowed it down to the compact Sig P320 or the mid-size FN 509. Compare the dimensions and specs of FN 509 Midsize and Sig Sauer P320 X-Carry JavaScript is disabled. H&k P30SK 9mm (most carried) 3. To entries into the militaries MHS Program. Sig supplies all the guns in the lower classes if you don’t bring your own. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! If you could only choose one, in the best condition you’ve had it in, would you choose the P320 or the 509? Compare the dimensions and specs of Sig Sauer P320 M18 and FN 509 MDR Compact GCBHM ... reliable but it is competing with a field that includes some outstanding and already proven competitors including the SIG P320C. The FN is going to be a better firearm. FN has the motto, “The World’s Most Battle Proven Firearms,” and that isn’t a statement without merit. I was able to shoot one before I bought it, and it felt like it was made for my hand and I really liked the trigger action, about 6 pounds but feels less and reset is short. Who’s sexier? Even with the lack of markings, this slide cap design is worthy of praise and easier to access than SIG Sauer’s P320-based M17/M18 and X-series pistols. I like the ergonomics and grip better with the 509. All in all both good guns, with the caveat that my fn came pretty much dead put of the box.... but they got it back to me in about 2 weeks flat and the manufacturer has a good rep... everyone gets lemons i guess. It comes with an ambidextrous slide stop. If FNH wants to get into the U.S. marketplace, it'll probably have to sell it for a good bit less. As for your other comments above re the 509 vs. FNS -- it's all conjecture on your part. The FN is going to be a better firearm. The Baltimore PD is having some problems with unexpected discharges from their FN 509’s. 320. 8 comments. H&k P30SK 9mm (most carried) 3. Haven't tried a Sig in a long time. H&K 45 4. It's small, but I can still get a full grip on it. So why did the P320 win? The slide on the FN 509 took a bit more effort to retract compared to the other pistols tested. Enjoy. The SIG P320 Compact (top) and the Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 (bottom) are top guns for concealed carry. https://fnamerica.com/products/pistols/fn-509/, https://bersa.eagleimportsinc.com/bersa/firearms/thunder-ultra-compact-pro-series, https://www.sigsauer.com/store/p320-nitron-full-size.html, Global warming cured... Bill Gates to block sun. To entries into the militaries MHS Program. We compare the FN 509 vs SIG P320 Carry, both chambered in 9mm. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 1911 .500x65 1911 Mil-Spec Browning Hi-Power Colt 1911 Dan Wesson Ed Brown 1911 FN Glock H&K Kimber Les Baer 1911 Nighthawk 1911 Ruger 1911 Sig 1911 Sig P320 & FN509 Smith & Wesson Springfield 1911 Springfield EMP Sights Springfield Range … SIG P320. They said at the time that the 509 had more than 1 million rounds to ensure that their new flagship 9mm pistol was reliable. FN 509: I’ve been looking forward to shooting the FN 509 since it came out. Idiosyncrasies. Enjoy. Maybe buy a compact 9mm and get a full sized 357 Sig kit? If FNH wants to get into the U.S. marketplace, it'll probably have to sell it for a good bit less. Ergos are similar except 509 grips are super rough if that’s your thing. 509 has a better optics mounting system, 320 has better trigger and feels softer shooting out of the box. Sig Sauer received a massive contract and became the new go-to handgun for the U.S. Army. No failures at all. But definitely try to rent all three guns first, at MFS or Granite State. Why not take Sig Academy’s Handgun 102 and ask to use a P320? Sig P320 is on the left FN 509 on the right at 7yds. This Old Gun: Walther Model 4. Close. Regarding the SIG P320, the U.S. Army recently chose a variation of it as its service pistol, designating it the M17; then every other military branch followed in suit. Try as many as you can and figure out what you can shoot best. 42. Sig Sauer vs. Glock: Why the Navy SEALs Dumped the P226 for the Glock 19. At that time it had only been out for less than a year, so I had to search the area for the compact model. It digs into my side pretty good and can get uncomfortable when I'm sitting for awhile. Any experience with the 509 would be great. A subreddit to discuss the concealed carrying of weapons (CCW) and other self-defense topics. Idiosyncrasies. Ate Winchester 124 range ammo, Sig 124 v, Speer 124 GD, Fed 124 HST, Lawman 147 grain range. by Gun News Daily One of the most common questions we get asked here at GND is whether you should buy a Glock 19 or a Sig P320. Sig is horrible about changing designs and leaving early adopters hung out to dry, but the 320 is going to be around for a very long while. So IMO just buy the FN if you can afford it. I’m a big fan of the 509’s front slide serrations [ED: available on the GLOCK’s 2017 “Summer Specials”]. will it fit a carbine type set up then that could be interesting.... Aug 16, 2020 #27 Rango Member. That is pretty appealing to me. Edit; I like Sig firearms as a whole, I am specifically referring to the 320 as I do not trust the 320 yet. You’ll have to modify the lower frame yourself if you buy a new one. H&k USP 9mm (pre ban) I have the VP9 also. Ergos are similar except 509 grips are super rough if that’s your thing. IN CLOSING. Of course I can't speak about everyone, but that was one of the reasons I bought it. The SIG P320 won the contract, and as a result, most of the other designs that were submitted for this competition are being released for sale commercially in one form or another. They said at the time that the 509 had more than 1 million rounds to ensure that their new flagship 9mm pistol was reliable. I agree with the other posters, don’t get a safety on a carry gun, my 2 m17s are strictly range toys, I bought them because they were cheap (for a sig) at 500 a pop. FN forum is pretty weak - SIG Talk far exceeds any other forum out there. That meant the FN 509 series pistol was pushed to the civilian market, which was awesome for us. The FN 509 is one more pistol whose existence is due in whole or part to a manufacturer attempting to win the military’s Modular Handgun System (MHS) contract. So I inadvertatenly stumbled into this form factor. PRE-ORDER NOW - We expect to ship these NLT Mid November 2020 Adapter Plate for P320 X-Series / LEGION / M17 / M18 with Romeo1Pro / DPP Factory Optics Cut This adapter plate will mount into the R1P / DPP cut and will allow you to mount a Holosun 509T. Size and weight are close enough to be the same for me. During the development process, changes were made to the frame, barrel and slide while other components were completely redesigned to meet the requirements for increased reliability, accuracy and ergonomics. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. i am also looking at getting either a compact in the fn 509 or Sig p320. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. As well as possibly a threaded barrel and RMR-ready slide. At 1st I thought this was just another model of gun to buy. I do like the modularity concept of the p320 but will i ever take advantage of that hmmm probably never but who knows. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Work on your fundementals. The 509 Compact MRD might be a dark horse contender, but one worthy of betting the farm on when it comes to performance. It was born out of their entry in the Army’s modular handgun system competition. Compare the dimensions and specs of Sig Sauer P320 M18 and FN 509 Compact Tactical ... sig p320 vs fn 509, sig sauer m17 bravo forum reviews. My FN contact tells me they will be available soon. Versatility. I am partial to FN- own a Scar 17, 16, FNX Tac 45, FNS 9C and 509. Meanwhile FN gets 17+1 in the FNX/FNS which is slightly more ergonomic at least to my hand than either of those. Try as many as you can and figure out what you can shoot best. SIG XRAY3 front and rear night sights are another upgrade on this model, as well as the new P320 magazines with high visibility follower and witness holes for each loaded round. The FN 509 Tactical shares the same mechanics and touchpoints as the standard FN 509. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 509 selling for a lower street price when it actually hits the market in larger numbers. Hey I own a 320 m-17, 320 x compact, and the 509 tactical. This video compares the differences and similarities of the Sig Sauer M17 and the FN 509 Tactical. I like the ergonomics and grip better with the 509. The FN 509 was an impressive gun, but I’m a DA/SA kinda guy unless something catches my eye and the FN 509 Tactical has caught my eye. 320’s have been perfect so far with maybe 6-7k rounds put together, 509 striker broke literally right after i got it home from the store dry firing.... but has been flawless since i got it back.. maybe 5-600 rounds in. Both guns are stock when this video was shot. If issued any of … Other than that I really like it, but then I haven't tried the FN 509 to really compare. Holster and sight options would have to be available as well. Now were are getting the FN 509 Tactical. “As I write this, the Army has selected a variant of the Sig Sauer P320 as the new XM17 MHS, and Glock has filed a protest with the Government Accountability Office, effectively placing the program on hold until it is resolved. Capacity wise and price wise, they are the same. So IMO just buy the FN if you can afford it. Personally I still carry mine, I have never had AD as had been shown, although I have put in for the upgrade. Yes, I don’t plan on getting a subcompact frame, but would be interested in getting a carry frame. Meanwhile FN gets 17+1 in the FNX/FNS which is slightly more ergonomic at least to my hand than either of those. Again I am talking full size 9mm handguns here. It's everything a shooter could want in a modern tactical handgun. The trigger was close but felt slightly better on the P320 (although I tried a full-sized 509 and the mid-sized trigger is supposed to be better than the full size). FN has the same reputation, but not near the staying power as most people and even gun guys have trouble naming an FN pistol other than the 5.7. Posted by 10 hours ago. I’m looking at getting my first CCW and have narrowed it down to the compact Sig P320 or the mid-size FN 509. Even with the lack of markings, this slide cap design is worthy of praise and easier to access than SIG Sauer’s P320-based M17/M18 and X-series pistols. 1. It is an excellent gun but I prefer hammer fired. Sig P938 (pocket carry) 2. TLDR: Mid-sized FN 509 or Sig P320 and why, disregarding market share popularity? The results are very close, but only one can win. IN CLOSING. Something I forgot to mention that gives the Sig an edge over the FN. I realize this is late. FN America took their line of striker-fired pistols in a new direction in 2017 with the introduction of the FN 509. FN 509 Details. 1911 .500x65 1911 Mil-Spec Browning Hi-Power Colt 1911 Dan Wesson Ed Brown 1911 FN Glock H&K Kimber Les Baer 1911 Nighthawk 1911 Ruger 1911 Sig 1911 Sig P320 & FN509 Smith & Wesson Springfield 1911 Springfield EMP Sights Springfield Range Officer Springfield XD STI 1911 Wilson 1911 Wilson CBQ The FN is 2.5 oz lighter than the Sig, but that's not enough for me to consider it a deciding factor. If you get the P320 with a safety then it will limit any interchangeability you have because you can’t find lower frames that accept the safety. H&K 45 4. The striker control won’t work with a 320 because the striker is fully cocked (they tried) The P-10 and 509 use a more “Glock like” system, I’m guessing the demand isn’t there to justify the development costs for that device. I put the x series frame on my m17, the frame actually came marked/scored where the safety was, just took a dremmel and five mins works great. SIG P320 vs Glock 19. The newly designed plate will come with a 10-8 Performance Style Rear Sight. Shootout: Sig Sauer's P320 vs. Glock's 19 (Which Is Better?) The FN 509® is built on the proven architecture of the FNS™ Compact, FN made changes internally and externally to meet the rigorous performance standards of the MHS requirements and further developed the platform into the FN 509® with the help from industry experts. 1. It only takes about 10 minutes with a dremmel, it’s not difficult, I put my m17 on the new x-compact frame and have no regrets about it. It comes in a variety of models, including a compact version designed specifically for concealed carry. But, I put the 509 to an honest comparison before buying a midsize carry 9mm and it blew the Sig, Glock and Springfield away. That's not true, you just have to cut out the safety slot out yourself. As well as possibly a threaded barrel and RMR-ready slide. 1. You must log in or register to reply here. !IMPORTANT SAFETY INFORMATION!